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Post by stacenangel on Nov 18, 2009 19:57:44 GMT 1
didnt want to make another topic, but thoght this may be the best place to get knowledgable answers im starting to worry about angel, because shes looking ribby and its not even that cold yet. shes got a lovely shine to her coat, with no lotions or potions, but yet shes not in great condition, she has a good covering, lots of fur lol, and shes got a 300g combo at the moment, although has been changed on milder days wehn shes been feeling warm. shes on scoop of speedi beet ( round scoops) 2 big handfulls of brochop a scoop of spillers conditioning cubes and she has that twice a day. she has aynets in morning, and hay on an evenign. no grass sadly, not that theres much anywhere this time of year. but yes any recomendations, doesnt help that hse needs to build up muscle but then shes only 3
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Post by mysticforest on Nov 21, 2009 15:32:36 GMT 1
Linseed is brill, I use both boiled and crushed with my boy. Barley is excellent for conditioning but it does fizz some horses up.
Sadly with speedi beet there isn't a great deal in it, could you switch to the 24 hour sugar beet? As that's better, has more sugar and starch in it.
Hope this helps
Tracie x
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Post by ktsval on Nov 22, 2009 11:44:17 GMT 1
I would maybe change the chop to something like Dengie alfa oil or the new topspec alfa a which has added oil and mint I think. And also change the speedi beet to alfa beet for more conditioning fibre.
I have used the spillers conditioning nuts and didnt find they done much. A lot of people on here seem to have had great success with top spec feeds aswell.
I would personally go for high fibre/oil feeds and avoid high levels of starch and sugar which may fizz her up and stress the weight off.
And dont worry too much it maybe just looks worse as she is lacking topline and is just a baby. Took my mare til she was 6/7 to develop decent topline and carry any weight at all.
Maybe have a worm count and teeth checked just to be sure.
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Post by stacenangel on Nov 22, 2009 13:14:15 GMT 1
thankyou, thats really detailed, will have a look into vhanging feeds when we next at feed shop.
shes due for her teeth doing, which shes having done this week, so hopefully that may help too
thanks
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Post by ktsval on Nov 22, 2009 14:42:45 GMT 1
No probs.
Have a look at some of the feed company websites aswell, they give u all the details of the feeds and also have helplines or u can email em for advice..
All horses are different and respond differently to different feeds.
Can sometimes be trial and error for a bit til u find the right feed.
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Post by ninajh on Nov 22, 2009 23:14:20 GMT 1
I can highly recommend the Top Spec range, this is the first year I tried my 27 year old on it and he is maintaining his weight really well. I was also advised to make sure he is well rugged up. As he is a TB they quickly loose weight keeping warm. Hope you find a solution
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Post by eyesdontlie on Nov 27, 2009 9:36:25 GMT 1
another vote here for top spec feeds and thier advice line is so helpful eyes dropped weight last summer due to pain in his legs so I put him on top spec conditioning cubes and the difference was amazing he maintains his weight on top spec fibre plus cubes and top spec feed balancer. eyes is kept on a high fibre diet now substituted with oil due to him tying up but his condition is amazing.
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Post by flash98 on Nov 27, 2009 9:45:22 GMT 1
My vote is for Top Spec too! Flash has been on it for a couple of months now and can see a difference already, he's filling out in all the right places and it also seems to have chilled him out! He's on Top Spec Cool and Conditioning cubes, Top Spec Feed Balancer, chaff, and sugar beet.
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Post by lisah on Nov 27, 2009 12:54:53 GMT 1
My vote is also for Top Spec, it really seems to suit the ex racehorses in that it does not blow their brains whilst making a huge difference to their condition.
The initial outlay to buy the balancer seems a lot, but one bag will last about 6 weeks so it is acually cheaper than feeding normal bags of feed etc
I am sure Angel is fine honey, and being so young she may be having a wee growth spurt which will make her drop condition :-)
Top spec, can't beat it for a fabulous condition without the fizz :-)
L xxxxx
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Post by Eleanor on Nov 27, 2009 17:56:52 GMT 1
I have a split vote between TopSpec and Baileys. Change to some form of Alfa A - its much better for condition than Hifi's. Speedibeet is designed for lamminitics and so has nigh on no nutritional value, its more just to give them something to eat. I know the 24 hours stuff is a pain but once you get into the habbit of making it its not so bad. This is what I feed mine - Get ready to feint! Jeff - A double handful of Alfa A and a round scoop and a half of TopSpec Super Conditioning Flakes 3x a day - Morning, noon, 10pm. Then at 8pm he gets a double handful of Alfa A, Scoop and half of SC Flakes, and 3/4 scoop of sugarbeet. He also gets 750g of TopSpec Ballencer split in half between breakfast and dinner. Kyle - He just gets a double handful of Hifi, 1/2 Baileys High Fibre Cubes 3x a day, then at 8pm he gets Double handful of Hifi, 1/2 scoop of BHF Cubes, 3/4 scoop Flaked Barley and 3/4 scoop of sugarbeet. And then 650g of TopSpec Ballencer split into 2 feeds. Kyle looks great now, but I never thought he did so well when he was on TopSpec Cool and Conditioning Cubes. I would personally vote for Bailey's Top Line Cubes over the TopSpec Cubes. Barley does make some horses go loopy but, well you wouldn't notiice with Kyle! He's a bit of a nutjob anyway And some people say the same about the TopSpec Flakes but if anything, Jeff is more of a donkey now on them than anything else! Also, seeing as she is still young and growing what about looking into Youngstock feeds. They tend to have the right amounts of nutrition in them for the horses age. D&H do a youngsters feed ballencer called Suregrow which is much, much cheaper than TopSpec or Blue Chip and the likes and is designed for young, developing horses and ponies. Its easy to see the size of the horse and feed it for height and weight but a lot of people do tend to forget their age.
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Post by stacenangel on Nov 27, 2009 22:03:28 GMT 1
oo thank you loads for all advice given its helping greatly, going to get some alpha A next time i go to feed shop deff to replace the chop.
will look into the others too and see if it helps
eleanor can i ask do you keep yours at home, only asking as how do you manageto get to yard so many times lol
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Post by Eleanor on Nov 27, 2009 22:16:39 GMT 1
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Post by ktsval on Nov 27, 2009 22:22:15 GMT 1
I have a split vote between TopSpec and Baileys. Change to some form of Alfa A - its much better for condition than Hifi's. Speedibeet is designed for lamminitics and so has nigh on no nutritional value, its more just to give them something to eat. I know the 24 hours stuff is a pain but once you get into the habbit of making it its not so bad.
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Post by catrionamorrison on Nov 27, 2009 23:58:57 GMT 1
I have found Calm and Condition very good with a few different horses that don't hold weight and use Alpha A as well with additional fillers but those two have been very good to my gang over the years. Good luck. Cat
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Post by ScotNorth Ex Racers on Dec 8, 2009 17:57:14 GMT 1
hi Staceangel
How is the new feed regime going so far??
l xx
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