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Post by babeelis on Jun 24, 2011 10:34:27 GMT 1
My mare is not ready to be riddin yet due to injuries but Id really like to come to spectate. Anyone now if there is a charge for this?
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Post by Alliecat on Jun 24, 2011 14:02:34 GMT 1
My mare is not ready to be riddin yet due to injuries but Id really like to come to spectate. Anyone now if there is a charge for this? Given the scale of the Central Scotland horse trials, I'd be surprised if we have any free passes for spectators. Sure LisaH will chip in if I'm wrong
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Post by babeelis on Jun 24, 2011 23:29:34 GMT 1
sorry, yea im guessing there will be an entry fee but wondering how much it will set me back if i want to bring partner and car. hope to come along anyway
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Post by misstickle on Jun 25, 2011 14:37:52 GMT 1
We'll find out how much is it is for spectators and get back to you. It'll be lovely to have people supporting from the ground and see new faces.
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Post by jim on Jun 25, 2011 19:34:29 GMT 1
From memory there was no entry fee at the Central Scotland Trials I in April so I doubt if there will be an entry fee for NoII trials in August.
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Post by misstickle on Jun 25, 2011 19:58:46 GMT 1
Will we be seeing you there Jim?
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Post by jim on Jun 26, 2011 23:34:44 GMT 1
Will we be seeing you there Jim? Yep. I'll be there for the trials so should be able to paparazzi you from the showjumping ring!
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Post by lisah on Jun 27, 2011 9:46:27 GMT 1
sorry, yea im guessing there will be an entry fee but wondering how much it will set me back if i want to bring partner and car. hope to come along anyway Hi there I am pretty sure it is free, although there may be a charge for parking. We are doing an in hand class so if you think your girly would be ready for that then she can still come out to the party Looking forward to meeting you and the other new members who are coming along. LisaH
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Post by babeelis on Jun 27, 2011 10:05:40 GMT 1
Thankyou, I will defo come along. V.exciting. Unfortunately I dont think my Broo will make it along as I wouldnt like to travel her so far with her sore leggies. Looking forward to seeing all the talent tho Lisa xx
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Post by lisah on Jun 27, 2011 17:02:12 GMT 1
Thankyou, I will defo come along. V.exciting. Unfortunately I dont think my Broo will make it along as I wouldnt like to travel her so far with her sore leggies. Oops - sorry, my fault for not realising she was sore bless her. Ah well, there will be plenty of other parties to bring her to once she is better, and it gives you more time to meet and chat to everyone this time See you there Lisa xx
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Post by Eleanor on Jul 3, 2011 18:05:08 GMT 1
Who has the pleasure of judging this year?
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Post by lisah on Jul 4, 2011 10:56:58 GMT 1
Who has the pleasure of judging this year? Els - I have texted Lucinda but waiting to hear back
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Post by Eleanor on Jul 4, 2011 19:24:21 GMT 1
Who has the pleasure of judging this year? Els - I have texted Lucinda but waiting to hear back I'm not meaning to be rude to anyone involved but would it not be wiser to have different judges? I know Lucinda is very good at the job but she did judge the Masterclass only 2 years ago at Hopetoun. Different judges bring in different people from all over the country. Also with Lucinda training in the central belt a fair few of her previous charges remain in the area and would normally compete at such a prestigious show but under normal showing rules you wouldn't be allowed to show the horses under her and without the normal showing rules it would be totally unethical to ask her to judge horses she knows and has trained.
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Post by lisah on Jul 5, 2011 11:35:57 GMT 1
Hi Els
I appreciate your comments and don't think you are being rude at all.
My thoughts have been that Lucinda is professional enough to put aside the fact that she may have trained some of these horses. The last time she and Scu judged the festival the top horses were ones that had not been trained by her. I do not see asking her to judge as unethical at all - Lucinda is professional and unbiased.
The other thing to consider is that our members would love to be judged by her and Scu which in turn will attract more entries and make the festival a bigger success. We need high profile judges for the Festival, so far we have been able to get them but I have tried various other high profiles to judge but they are all busy that weekend eventing etc themselves.
We aren't under normal showing rules and it is hard to find judges who judge the ex racehorses as 'athletes' under our rules and not as a normal showing class - that is the fundamental difference that we are very keen to promote.
I do understand your points though and if you have any other suggestions of someone up here who you feel would be a good judge the please send me a PM as I do take on board what you are saying.
Thanks Els and please do come back with suggestions
L xxx
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Post by Eleanor on Jul 5, 2011 20:02:32 GMT 1
It maybe that I am a showing person through and through but to me a show class should be just that - for Show horses. TB's come in all shapes and sizes and are re-trained for many different things and as such have different muscle builds and ways of going. How can you judge a striped fit eventer against a backend heavy show jumper, a powerpack dressage horse, a covered weight carrying show horse and a happy hacker?
I can see where you are coming from about looking at them as athletes. It doesnt make a difference if an eventer or show jumper is slightly strong on their rounds as way of going isn't taken into account, dressage horses are more up and in and collected, your average happy hacker may not be fantastically schooled and show horses should give a light, mannerly ride that anyone should be able to ride. If you put them all together and ask them to perform in the show ring then, imo they should go like show horses. Yes you should be able to see merits of each horse for its job but when judging a show class you have to measure them against a standard as a show horse.
I know you got a lot of entries at Hopetoun and you will do again but there will also be alot of people that maybe didn't do as well as they thought they should do there and won't enter this year. I have a list of judges I won't show under as I know they don't particularly like my ponies and it would be a waste of time and money to take them - yes, people do think like this. Even with the straightest of judges they would still feel a slight pull towards horses they have had dealings with. If someone brought Brian or Denzel along to a class you were judging could you honestly not be slightly biased towards them for any reason? No matter what happens people will always say that others only got their placing - good, bad or indifferent - due to connections with judges. It's a no win situation.
Would you not also think that people may want different peoples opinions of their horses? Having the same judges for the same things gets a bit monotinous and you can usually predict who is going to do well as they are the right type for that particular judge. Yes all of the horses have to perform well to be in with a shout but there will always be one or two that the judges will love from the moment they see them and will try to bump them up a bit no matter what happens in the rest of the class.
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