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Post by eyesdontlie on Feb 1, 2008 15:06:53 GMT 1
Hi guys looking for just a wee bit of advice on Mari he really does feel safe as houses to ride but boy does he pull he is like a steam train on speed!!!!!!!!! I have to say yesterday I was a bit sharp with him as he completely ignorted my aids for a good few laps of the school I really do not think he has ever really been taught proper legs aids etc.
so my question is what would be the best bit to help on the stopping the leaning and what kind of exercises would you do with him
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Post by maggiemay on Feb 1, 2008 15:25:32 GMT 1
Hi When Maggie leans on the bit and I can no longer feel my arm, I do some leg yeilding and shoulder in and it gets her to use her back end and she becomes light again, this might help  Good luck  |
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Post by Alliecat on Feb 1, 2008 16:45:36 GMT 1
Allie loved his loose ring copper training bit - kind with a round ball link in the middle. LisaH tried it on Brian & he didn't like it, so it's really just trial & error.
Mine's a 5.5 inch, if you want a wee shot?
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Post by michellec on Feb 1, 2008 16:57:31 GMT 1
Transitions ,transitions, transitions  well I always find they get mine listening. walk to halt then to walk again varying the times between transition and work up the way as he gets the idea. Might take him a little time but patience is rewarding. |
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Post by bobby on Feb 1, 2008 19:13:15 GMT 1
What bit is he in now? and what schooling are you doing with him?
Because you don't know his history or aren't sure wether what you have been told is reliable, then I would start him from scratch. Get him working in walk in the school, forget where his head is, concentrate on getting a nice active walk with his quarters engaged. Get a nice soft contact on his mouth, but not too short a rein. Regurlar transitions from walk to halt and then to walk will help engage his quarters, and also incorporate circles serpenties, and leg yielding if he knows how. Keep him thinking to prevent him getting bored. If he does lean on your hands, run your hand up his neck, if the contacts not there, he can't lean on it. Keep doing this and eventually you should only have to move your hand an inch or so for a couple of seconds. Whilst doing this keep your leg on to keep him moving forward.
It shouldn't take long for him to get the message, then once you are happy with how his walk is then move onto the trot and apply the same principles. There is no point in rushing it at this time otherwise you will end up with problems later and if it's just a habit he's got into, then it shouldn't take too long to get him back to how he should be.
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Post by bingbong on Feb 3, 2008 23:36:05 GMT 1
yup same as everyone else, plus race horses are taught to bare down on the bit, are they not??? so use your legs and seat and weight to slow him down rather than the reins. my old exracer was thia way inclinded
also instead of going for a stronger bit, do for a softer one, might be the shape of his mouth that makes him run through the bridle.
id rly recomend mylers they are fabulous
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Post by michellec on Feb 4, 2008 14:22:36 GMT 1
instead of going for a stronger bit, do for a softer one, might be the shape of his mouth that makes him run through the bridle. Very true Proph rides in a straight bar - it solved all his bit/head issues anything stronger and he headshakes and pulls. I'm not suggesting you use a straight bar - it just suits Proph best |
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Post by lisah on Feb 4, 2008 14:35:43 GMT 1
Don';t take this the wrong way but is there any chance I could come and have a sit before I offer any advice hon?
A change of bit may be the least of issues - it may be that he has never been properly re-schooled in which case he will do what he has always been taught to do and lean on the bit :-)
If I could come over and have a wee sit on him I would feel happier offering advice once I have felt what's going on,
Even if you did change bits, once he gets used to the new one he will end up pulling again so you need to address the issue rather than mask it with different bits.
I know you know all this anyway having gone through it with Eyes :-)
LisaH xxxxx
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Post by victoria on Mar 22, 2008 0:39:10 GMT 1
I agree with above, not sure bit change would necessarily do anything at this stage, I would go back a gear and do walk/halt transitions and add some pole work to keep him thinking and stop him getting bored, when you are sure he understands that........ move up a gear. getting LisaH would be good as well, as second opinion is always helpful Goodluck : ) xxxx
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Post by Fleur on Mar 24, 2008 10:52:45 GMT 1
Loads of lateral work if he's able - start off on the ground so he gets the idea if he's not.
Trouble only did BSJA when I got him and he's a very big strong horse and a tanky little bumface! My sister put him in some sort of roller bit but I don't think it made any difference so I swapped back to a good old happymouth snaffle.
If he's really pulling I do transitions and lots of leg yielding, turns on the forehand/haunches, shoulder in etc and he lightens right up. Keeps it interesting too. Also shortening and lengthening. Something to work towards if he's not done that sort of thing before too. Good luck! xxx
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Post by lisah on Mar 24, 2008 11:21:43 GMT 1
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Post by Fleur on Mar 24, 2008 12:49:15 GMT 1
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Post by Alliecat on Mar 24, 2008 23:22:30 GMT 1
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Post by gemmat on Mar 25, 2008 14:46:28 GMT 1
Claire you do really have a way with words...!
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I do love to learn new technical terms !